| Keynote Breakfast -- An address by Willie Brown
Author: Willie Brown
Published: May 14, 2002
Last Updated: May 14, 2002
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KEYNOTE BREAKFAST
Wednesday morning, April
14
Bhatia: Thank you
Matt.
Clearly, the video was
the perfect lead up to our next speaker, a friend of Herb Caen and the elected
leader of this great city. Willie Louis Brown Jr., the mayor of San Francisco,
and the once self-described ayatollah of the California legislature, has had
a long relationship with newspapers. He grew up in Mineola, Texas, in the rural
segregated South of the 1930s and 1940s. It was there that his ability to capture
the public eye began. Here is how. Mayor Brown was too small to play football
at Mineola Colored High School, but he tried to play anyway. In his first scrimmage
Brown was clobbered and knocked out cold. When he regained consciousness, the
coach told him that was his first and last play as a football player. However,
Brown being the relentless sort that he is did not give up on football. He accompanied
the team to all of its games then return to school, where in a school assembly
he would recount the play-by-play of the entire game for his schoolmates. His
gift for gab earned him the teen-age nickname, "The Reporter." He also wrote
non-byline stories for the Mineola Monitor newspaper about sports at the all-black
high school that he attended. Indeed, Mayor Brown has always sought and been
comfortable in the limelight. He kept a framed poster on the wall of his San
Francisco law office for many years that quoted himself saying, "The only thing
worse than being misquoted is not being quoted at all." He has been known for
his flamboyance, his love of fast cars, fine food and expensive clothing. His
sharp tongue has kept friends laughing and enemies infuriated, although sometimes,
given the vagaries of politics and public life, it's hard to sort out who is
who. Biographer James Richardson describes him as the last great political showman
of the 20th century. But beneath the flashing urbane exterior is the story of
a remarkable political and personal journey.
He was born in 1934 on
the wrong side of the tracks in Mineola. His mother was a maid to white families
in Dallas. His father was a restaurant waiter and later a railroad porter. He
was reared by his grandmother. The principal source of income for his family
back in those days was bootlegging and gambling. He came to San Francisco in
1951 to follow a flamboyant uncle who purportedly ran an illicit casino in the
Western Addition, which was then seen as being the Harlem of the West. He came
from that difficult world, but through remarkable hard work escaped it. A farsighted
professor at what was then called San Francisco State College spotted him and
smoothed the way for Brown to enter college. Once he graduated, he went to the
Hastings College of the Law here in the city and became a black lawyer in a
city with a legal establishment that was just as segregated as the schools he
had left behind in Texas.
Willie Brown entered politics
in 1964, unseating an entrenched Democratic assemblyman in a primary election.
His passion and willingness to say what he thought needed to be said moved him
in and out of the legislative doghouse for decades but also paved the way for
him to become an extremely popular and effective legislator who had the ability
to bring governors of either party to the table when it was necessary. He first
gained national prominence at the 1972 Democratic National Convention in a fiery
speech demanding that the convention seat his California delegates, who were
pledged to George McGovern. And in 1980 he made a deal with both sides of the
aisle and was elected the speaker of the California State Assembly. Willie Brown
served as speaker of the assembly for nearly 15 years, longer than anyone in
California history has ever held that position or is likely to do so again.
Consider this. Willie Brown was speaker of the assembly through all or part
of the gubernatorial terms of Jerry Brown, George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson.
With term limits catching
up to him in 1995, Brown left the assembly and was elected mayor of the City
by the Bay. He certainly has not been a quiet mayor nor one who has avoided
controversy. Indeed, his activist style has endured. He has attempted to forge
political consensus around many of the vexing issues of San Francisco, ranging
from building new football stadiums to developing Treasure Island in San Francisco
Bay. He has taken on a decrepit city bus system, public employees, and San Francisco's
never ending problem and dilemma with homelessness. And you probably saw in
the paper this morning that he is now taking on bad drivers and bad pedestrians,
as well. Through it all he has remained one of California's and the nation's
most intriguing political figures, most charismatic and controversial leaders,
and the best quote the California press has ever had. And he isn't even close
to being done yet.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's
my great pleasure to introduce to you the man here in San Francisco they call
The Mayor, Willie Brown.
Remarks by Willie Brown
Thank you very much for
that very kind introduction. I hope my local newspaper people heard it and will
reprint every word. I am delighted to join with Mr. Wilson of the Chronicle
to welcome you to San Francisco and to share that great moment with you that
we had with the video of our good friend, Herb Caen. He was indeed an amazing
human being. He would have been absolutely ecstatic with each of your remarks
and your recommendations for the standards that should be measured for journalists.
Herb Caen was truly an extraordinary journalist. He was a man who, within 24
hours from any mistake in his column, would put the same amount of emphasis,
the same cleverness, the same kinds of words, and the same attention in the
same prominent display of his correction of the error that he had given to the
error itself. He was extraordinarily proud of being totally and completely accurate,
so much so that at 80 years of age he was still doing his own fact-checking
in any story that he did. He never really wanted an assistant to do the kind
of work that good reporters do. He wanted to do it himself. He was so proud
and dedicated to being a journalist and a great journalist that he lived it,
worked it and preached it every day. The recommendations that came from your
leadership with reference to where you should be personifies the life of Herb
Caen. And I'm happy to have been called his friend. He was, for me, an absolutely
necessary voice. It was like the world of old newspapers. On the front page,
the Chronicle and the Examiner would skew me. In Herb Caen's column I was resurrected.
And believe me the resurrection was far greater than the skewing.
Today, Herb is gone. San
Francisco is definitely the loser. But the journalistic profession is, in fact,
the loser. I read yesterday where AP received two Pulitzers, The New York Times
two Pulitzers, The Wall Street Journal one or two. I can remember the great
pride we all had in San Francisco when that revered and respected and honored
organization notified us that they had finally come to their senses and embraced
a true professional journalist by extending that same honor to him. I'm just
delighted that it happened while he could be the responder.
He would want me to welcome
you. He would also want me to be extraordinarily candid in what I think about
newspapers and newspaper editors. And I certainly intend to do just that in
the period of time extended to me. I can assure you that we are going to go
away friends, however, in the end. So sit back and be comfortable for just a
few minutes.
The role of newspapers
and the media is very, very important, in my view, to this democracy. It's so
important in the eyes, apparently, of the Founding Fathers that there are only
two business enterprises listed in the Constitution: one, the church and religion;
and the second, the press. A democracy depends upon the people being able to
give their consent to be governed. The people can't get the information to help
them frame an intelligent response and expressions from politicians. We don't
do that. We write glowingly about ourselves. We put the spin on in the most
favorable way from our perspective. We write, inaccurately, about our opponents
and those who criticize us, and we always seek to have it interpreted in the
most negative fashion as it relates to them. Therefore, the democracy depends
upon those who are in the world of the media. You must provide the information
so that those who are to be governed can be informed enough, comprehensively,
to make an intelligent decision. When you fail in that regard, you threaten
this very democracy that we so richly enjoy and of which we are so proud.
Over the last three or
four decades, you know better than I that you have seriously failed that challenge.
Just roll backwards, if you will, and think of the '70s when Watergate was the
big story. You were in full flower. It was almost as if it was the time of the
Founding Fathers. You were careful, cautious, objective and in pursuit of accuracy.
You understood the implications of your print and your utterances. And you carefully
guarded, and you caused an administration to fall. Roll back to the time of
the Founding Fathers. It was not necessary for anybody to give you the cautionary
instructions that your leadership gave you this morning, and that I share their
view on, because there were so many newspapers. They didn't pretend to be objective,
necessarily. They were partisan. They were advocates, and they fought with each
other. And somehow the public could glean the truth from the multiple assaults
on their psyche, and from the great availability of information. But that's
all changed. There are so few newspapers today that partisanship can't be one
of the byproducts. You now are in that position. In the 1970s you clearly exhibited
that. You carefully monitored each one of the stories that you received, you
checked the sources, you double-checked the sources, you triple-checked before
you printed. There was no rush to beat your competitor and therefore cautions
to the wind. There was none of this nonsense of going with unconfirmed, unsubstantiated
rumors and speculations. There was a distinction made between news analysis
and advocacy and factual reporting. You did a magnificent job. Watergate was
something very special to this nation in terms of your reporting.
But by 1980 the advent
of the star status and the celebrity roles played by Woodward and Bernstein
and the spinoffs and all of the kinds of things that had occurred, it apparently
changed the nature of what happens in the schools of journalism. All of a sudden
the reporters who were sleuths became more important than the simple reporters
like Herb Caen, who got hard news. Yes, Herb did do hard news. It was not just
a daily column with the number of items 24, some rumor, some social, some critics
of movies and restaurants, but occasionally Herb Caen would actually write an
essay. And when he would write an essay, it might be on the environment, it
might be on the Vietnam War that was referred to in the film. Occasionally,
it was on you, his fellow journalists. I think I first read about journalistic
vendettas from Herb Caen. He took on his own newspaper and his own fellow journalists
in San Francisco on that issue. He cited chapter and verse when that was in
fact reality. From about 1974 or 1975 through about 1980 those persons who simply
did investigation without fully understanding what they were about became the
people whom you rewarded. The old news dog you didn't reward at all. You didn't
pay good salaries too, so in effect some of the perspective of what happens
with the news media was lost. So it shouldn't be shocking to you today that
- if the deterioration started post-Watergate and this is now 1999 - the fact
that you are rated in public opinion polls along with undertakers, lawyers and
politicians. It ought to be very instructive.
You know it is kind of
funny, we refer to lawyers and politicians. My mother, whom was referred to
and long since passed on back in Texas, knew that lawyers and politicians were
like debris. Her son came to California and became both a lawyer and a politician,
and my mother was very God-fearing and would never lie, but when asked what
is your son doing in California, she would simply say he works for the government.
My guess is that if I had also been a part of the news media, she would have
said essentially the same thing. She would never admit the bottom level I had
sunk to, nor that her son had become a part of that group. In the world of journalism
there is no place at the bottom for you in this democracy. Somehow you've got
to come out of that and move beyond undertakers, politicians and lawyers. They
are not charged with protecting this democracy and you are. And with that goes
an enormous responsibility. Let me tell you where I think the first real evidence
of how you had gotten off track became apparent to the public.
In 1980 a television show
started: "The McLaughlin Group." Electronic media began to invade your turf.
Somebody came forward with the most bizarre idea I have ever heard for public
policy discussion, particularly in politics: They decided to treat politics
as if it were a sport, and they covered it as sportscasters cover and do analysis,
"SportsCenter" or whatever the name of the sports program may be. You know,
they discuss inside activities in the clubhouse, they discuss and give perspectives
on the ability to pitch or to throw or to catch, they talk about all kinds of
things that relate thereto, and then they predict the outcome, and they have
zero responsibility for any accuracy of anything they say during the course
of that time period. The McLaughlin activities were essentially the same. Now,
of course, there would be total and complete denial that they were doing an
opinion program, and there isn't any reason why anybody should treat it as anything
other than semi-entertainment. Journalism can't be treated as semi-entertainment,
and it never should be. But "The McLaughlin Group" was so successful copies
came very quickly and in great volume. The talk show, the political interpretations
of the talk show, the projections. Hard news began to be played down, and then,
suddenly, the newspapers started aping McLaughlin, started doing essentially
the same thing. Hard news began to be shunted aside. So it shouldn't be surprising
to you that people began to doubt seriously each time they would read what you
had provided them with, whether or not it was for entertainment purpose or information
for them to form an appropriate decision to determine what course of action
their lives should take. You know better than I. You could cite story after
story where the coverage was essentially that way. The trivia was on the front
page, the substance was some other place, if it existed at all.
I remember most recently
when Bill Clinton and the Republicans got together and talked about changing
welfare as we know it. Clinton made the announcement. Many newspapers treated
it as if it were a political gamble, and you reported it as a political gamble
and that was all you talked about. You speculated on what effect it would have
on his re-electability. You speculated on whether or not he had gotten to the
right of the Republicans on the issue. At no point did you give prominence to
the substance of what was contained therein. You did not address the effect
that measure could very well have on poor and downtrodden and disadvantaged
Americans. There were some exceptions, of course. The New York Times and one
of its writers spent a considerable amount of time, and for those of us who
had to make some judgment that's where we had to go in order to get the information,
not from our own local newspapers, but we had to go to that one source. And
it's a tragedy, because in effect the public should have had the benefit of
informed discussion, detailed, accurate information, on the front page and not
simply the pure assessment as the sportscasters will do, as "The McLaughlin
Group" often did, with reference to the political implications. The same went
for the devaluing of the peso in Mexico. The issue was: Can Bill Clinton survive
or what will be his reaction in view of GATT and NAFTA and how does this play.
Didn't talk about the substance of what it meant to the economy of Mexico. That
was way on the back pages. So it shouldn't be surprising that the public is
ceasing to look to you for information to help them form opinions.
It was just short of 17
months ago that you turned the word Monica into a verb. Eventually, you did
get the story right, but let me tell you, almost 15 months passed before you
were able to say that with any degree of accuracy. You started and you really
hammered away, and for several weeks you hammered away. Almost instantly you
predicted that this was what you had been waiting for all these years. The news
organizations of this nation have always enjoyed one thing, even in their declining
influence, they could still wreck careers with scandal, and that was a part
of the turf that you literally owned exclusively until Monica. When Monica came
along, anticipating the same course of action, you went into full gear. You
fell all over each other trying to beat each other to the next report of any
bit of evidence or any statement made by anybody. You didn't do what occurred
in 1972 during the Watergate years.
Let me give you the distinction
- share with me for a moment because my recollection is probably not as good
as many of yours since you do it every day - but let's just take Carl Albert
as Speaker of the House. Can you imagine if Carl Albert had stood up and said
about Richard Nixon to his members, don't discuss the scandal, discuss Nixon's
crimes. Carl Albert didn't do that. He had his members focused on the facts
surrounding the scandal. Comment would be awaited if there was ever a crime.
That was not the case with Monica. From day one, Newt Gingrich went in the other
direction. The difference is in Carl Albert's days if he had done that, the
press and everybody else in this country would have been outraged. Newt Gingrich
did it, and you reported it on the front page and talked about whether or not
it would have any effect on Newt's ability to become a nominee for the Republican
party for the presidency.
Another example. You recall
Peter Rodino, man from New Jersey, revered and respected Congressman, was the
chair of the House Watergate Committee. What would have happened if Rodino had
gone back to his congressional district and proceeded to say, "Richard Nixon
is a scum bag. That's why I am out to get him."? You recall that did happen
in the Monica situation, but there was nobody outraged about it. There was no
demand that that congressperson disqualify himself from any further deliberations.
The newspapers were so carried away with the prospect of wiping out this presidency
and with making good on their projections early on - and more than 100 newspapers
called for either impeachment or resignation without any serious factual support
- that they totally ignored the conduct of the chair of that respective committee.
Can you imagine if Sam Irwin had, in fact, issued a subpoena on his own, received
the documentation back of the tapes, collectively and creatively modified those
tapes, and then published them? You would have been outraged. That happened
in the Monica scandal, yet, almost silence. The public recognized that. When
you did your three- or four-month attack laying out the horror of Bill Clinton's
private life, you were certain that the public would react favorably. You live
by the public opinion polls as most politicians do. The results must have been
stunning to you. The public didn't buy it. They didn't believe you or they didn't
care, if not a combination of both. The results were Bill Clinton's numbers
began to creep up. You were absolutely certain that was because you hadn't been
forceful enough. You increased the volume, you increased the amount of space,
you gave credence to almost anybody who would utter anything who had any semi-credentials
on the issue.
In many cases, you began,
frankly, to demonstrate what the congressional Republicans eventually totally
and completely embraced and demonstrated, and that was without reference to
fact, fiction, without reference to public opinion we're going to move full
speed ahead and make this case, whether we have evidence to support it or not.
When you measured the first time, the public first rejected your view of the
issue, became exasperated quickly in their negative expression about Ken Starr,
and then proceeded to also become hostile to the press and the press coverage
of that scandal. I recall so clearly reading that when Newt Gingrich raised
questions about an alleged attack upon the institution of the Independent Council
because of criticism of Kenneth Starr, he was given great prominent play. Not
one of you, or maybe some of you did and I just didn't read it, raised any questions
about the appropriateness of his conduct in that regard. The criticism that
we all must suffer in this nation must be protected. That's part of the democratic
process. However, Newt Gingrich was allowed to get away free of any question
about his conduct as he tried to silence those who would criticize Kenneth Starr.
Well, event after event
began to unfold and each time one more new event you would increase the amount
of coverage. It got to be 24 hours a day with the cable systems going. At any
moment you could dial up MSNBC and get the latest update. The lead story on
almost every one of the electronic news sources was a recounting of the most
recent words printed by you or reported by you anywhere in this nation on that
subject matter. And each time the public opinion polls would be accessed and
determined, Clinton continued to go up. You couldn't believe it. Let me assure
you we couldn't believe it, and I'm sure Clinton didn't believe. All of us were
stunned. Something was going on out there in the public that we didn't understand
and appreciate, and maybe we still don't understand it and appreciate it. I
can speculate that this nation did not like McCarthyism. They didn't like it
in the '50s and they hated it even more in the '90s, even when it was sexual
McCarthyism. This nation didn't like the arrogance of the news organizations
trying to tell them what they should believe and what they should consider serious.
They didn't like the cynicism that they saw. They totally disliked the irresponsibility
every time you had to apologize or issue a correction in this regard. It only
said and underlined the attitude that was already forming and being framed by
many persons in the public. It was a terrible time, frankly, for this nation
and for all of us, and it was particularly a terrible time for the news media.
Now, newspapers have a
chance, in my opinion, to reverse that. I'm not sure about the electronic media.
They are so dedicated to the 20-and 30-second sound bite and out. They are so
accustomed to simply reading what somebody else has written without fully understanding
it. I'm not sure they can do it. I had high hopes at one time for the cable
systems, but they apparently have a gene problem in that they can only do maybe
two stories at a time. You did comprehensive coverage in the old days. You have
got to begin to do that again. And as indicated by your leadership, you have
really got to begin to think in terms of accuracy over everything else. You
also have an even greater responsibility than you had at the outset of journalism
and news organizations. Now that you are so few, you truly must be nonpartisan
and objective. You must, even for those of us you dislike, report accurately
on what we do and how we do it. You must, as your leadership indicated, cease
including in your news stories commentary. Too often the public sees that and
understands that that is exactly what you are doing.
The only people in this
nation who are giving you passing marks - and I don't think any politician really
gets passing marks - in the public opinion polls are fellow journalists. Columbia
School of Journalism recently had 125 senior editors give opinions on the coverage
of the Monica operation. What did they do? Half said it was overplayed. Half
said it was underplayed. They were unanimous, however, virtually, 89 percent
said it was perfectly appropriate to go into the minute detail of Bill Clinton's
sexual life; 89 percent said that. I would guess if Herb Caen had been alive,
he would have been one of the 11 percent, and his would have been the loudest
voice of the 11 percent. Yes, he would love to poke fun and he would poke fun,
but he would never move it to the serious level of front page consumption as
was done and have it dominate.
My guess is that this nation,
in terms of journalism, is in dire need of a real shot in the arm. I am an advocate
of news organizations. No matter how much I criticize them I absolutely live
and die with them. I still peruse several newspapers every day, magazines. I
am a news junkie. The only thing I watch other than the news is business involving
sports. But beyond that I'm dedicated and I want you to be equally as dedicated.
We political types need the window that you afford for informational purposes,
for public opinion, forming and framing. Believe me, I don't purport to give
you any advice and counsel. No politician could presume to do that with editors
and newspaper publishers, but I'm going to cross the line. I am going to tell
you there is something wrong with your product. You've got to figure out exactly
what that is. I can make some observations about it, but the public doubts you
as much as they doubt me, and that's not a good sign. I come and go, but you
stay forever. You have a protected position. Yours is a greater obligation than
the oath that I frankly take, and you've got to begin to treat that greater
obligation in a fashion that will restore you to the protector of this democracy.
And in the process one
final recommendation and that is your sports page. I am an avid reader of your
sports page. You are so old and out of the loop on what ought to be on your
sports page. You are still doing baseball, football, basketball and a little
bit of hockey. Do you understand that the world has changed dramatically? Those
of us who are really sports fans go to Nascar, Winston Cup races, and we do
so in greater numbers than we do any of the other sports. Do you understand
that more kids now play soccer at every age than kids playing baseball, football,
basketball anywhere? Yet your coverage in your sports section in those areas
are only in the digest, and you just barely cover golf and only when David Duval
wins every tournament in the world or Tiger breaks all the records. Then you
go back to doing that traditional stuff. Get with it. Take a look at every aspect
of your sports page, please, and do something about upgrading it. And believe
me, if you do, those of us who read the sports page so avidly may begin to read
the front page. Thank you.
Bhatia: Well the
mayor said he would be frank and indeed he was. He has agreed to take some questions.
Questions from the floor
Tom Koenninger, The
Columbian, Vancouver, Wash.: Mr. Mayor, when Stephen Covey addressed this
organization a year ago, he stressed the importance of dialogue and building
relationships. Against that backdrop and what you've said this morning, how
would you categorize your relationship with the Chronicle and the Examiner?
Is it love/hate? Is it love/love? Is it hate/hate? Or something else? And would
you explain please?
Brown: Well, each
of those newspapers opposed my candidacy for mayor and that opposition, which
was 1995, has not changed in 1999, even though I won. I don't know whether you
call it love/love or hate/hate. I do know that if you review the newspapers
in San Francisco, particularly the Examiner, if you are the mayor, it would
be a little annoying that they are running a box soliciting somebody to run
against you with a 1-800 number. You would have to believe that the news stories
are influenced by their solicitation of opposition to your candidacy, and they
are actually doing that. That's how much they think, apparently, that I shouldn't
be the mayor of the city. On the other hand, the Chronicle wishes not to be
identified as being soft on Willie Brown, and the way they express it is by
being aggressively anti-Willie Brown in about four-fifths of their activity.
I am relegated, you know, to good newspapers like the Independent, the San Francisco
Sun Reporter, The Chinese Times, or The Bay Times, all the papers that people
read for accuracy.
Craig Klugman, The Journal
Gazette, Fort Wayne, Ind.: Good morning, Mayor. All the editors in this
room are on the front lines of some kind of urban policy issues, and I'd like
you to put yourself in the editor's chair for just a minute and tell us, looking
ahead for 10 years what are the three or four or five key urban issues that
you think we ought to cover better than we are now.
Brown: Well, I'm
not sure that I am that visionary. As a matter of fact, my newspapers say one
of my problems is that I am not visionary.
Klugman: I'm inviting
you to prove them wrong.
Brown: I'm not sure
I can. So let's get that straight. I don't maintain that they are incorrect
on their assessment of me. Believe me, I don't suggest that, but I would venture
to say that the issue of diversity over the next several years will be an issue
that requires serious, focused attention. Of late it has only gotten the attention
of the public press when it evidences itself by some act of hatred, somebody
doing something to Matthew Shepard in one of the middle western states or Jasper,
Texas, or here in San Francisco over the last several weeks, just yesterday
somebody being pushed aside, dumped, because they happen to be black. I believe
that this nation is slowly but surely moving, as California has so dramatically
moved, into a time period when there are a greater number of immigrants, a greater
number of people of color than we have ever had to live with before, and over
the next several years many states are going to begin to reflect that and so
will the nation. And that's going to create additional tension, and, in many
cases, those tensions come with a misunderstanding of culture and ethnicities.
In that regard, sometimes hate reveals itself. I believe that issue is one that
we must appropriately address.
Secondly - this is below
the surface, we are discovering it in San Francisco - is the issue of dealing
with poverty. We can talk about job training programs. We in San Francisco have
a better list of programs, a more sensitive constituency than probably any other
place in the nation. We have virtually hit the wall. Suddenly we find the educational
system, in many cases, has been a total failure to a segment of our population.
It has evidenced itself by the fact that people are not even ready to be trained.
They are reading at a second-, third-, and fourth-grade level. And among those
who are almost institutionally in poverty that is a reality. Their disabilities,
whether by virtue of not being trainable or whether by virtue of all the other
kinds of things that represent some form of a handicap, self-imposed in many
cases, including the ingestion of mind-altering substances and booze and things
of that nature, we as a system and as a government are not yet ready to deal
with it. We have not really scraped the surface, so the issue of poverty in
America and how we deal with it in the next few years is going to be upon us
in a very handsome and traumatic way. Politicians at the national level, at
the state level and a lot of times at the local level have not a clue, and the
news media organizations are even less focused.
And then finally, finally,
I would think the issue of rapid communications as it is today will continue
to be a major urban issue. Rapid communication spanning all lines, all places,
is something that is not yet harnessed, not yet understood, we are completely
comfortable with, and over the next few years I think that, too, will be an
issue.
Bhatia: We are out
of time. I want to acknowledge the mayor's press secretary, Kandace Bender.
She was instrumental in arranging the mayor's appearance today, and she used
to work for the Examiner. Mr. Mayor, thank you so much for being here. It has
been a pleasure to have you here this morning at ASNE.
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